Mid-Tower Mega Roundup
by Joshua Buss on September 8, 2005 12:05 AM EST- Posted in
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Antec P-180 (cont'd)
The P-180 ships with an unprecedented three 120mm fans, each of which has a switch identical to the ones that come with the Sonata. Out of the box, they are attached on the top panel pointing out, the rear panel pointing out, and the last is in the bottom chamber between where the power supply goes and the hard drive cage, directing air towards the power supply. Right away, we ran into a problem, however, with this third fan, as the power supply that we used for testing was too long to allow us to keep the fan where it was. To solve this problem, we made use of the case's fantastic customizability, and moved the fan to the other side of the bracket and turned it so that it was still blowing air towards the PSU. In this arrangement, it is no longer possible to put standard hard drives into the bottom drive cage, but there is still room for two in the upper cage anyway, so this was not a problem for us. In this picture, the bottom cage is half-way out, and the piece that holds the ring in place, both the upper and lower plastic rails on which the cage slides, as well as the tabs that the fan cage uses to hold the fan in place, are all visible.
The fact that we didn't use the included mounting bracket for the power supply is apparent from this picture as well, and the reason why is because we actually found it harder to fit out power supply into this bracket than just fastening it directly to the back plate. Ideally, this bracket's six rubberized strips could be used to keep vibrations from the power supply isolated, but our OCZ unit is rather quiet anyway.
As we mentioned earlier, the sheer design of this case - namely the decision to put the power supply at the bottom without inverting the motherboard - creates a potential problem: the motherboard power cables might be really tight, or unable to reach at all. With our Chaintech motherboard, we were actually testing just about the worst-case scenario, given that its power plug is at the very top of the board. Luckily, since we have to use the 24 to 20 pin adapter, our OCZ PowerStream power supply has enough cable to make the trip comfortably. This is definitely something to keep in mind, however, if one has an existing power supply and/or motherboard that they'd like to use in this case.
What is also visible in this picture is Antec's attempt at a system to isolate the two chambers thermally. The black plastic piece that the cables are going through can slide in two separate ways to make cable routing easier, but then slide back to provide a seal to keep the air moving only within each chamber.
Depending on one's particular setup, this cover could be used rather effectively or barely at all, depending on how many cables are needed to go through the two openings into the bottom chamber. For us, we must admit that we found the cover to be a bit more clumsy than useful, but this might not be the case for someone else.
One last piece to investigate with this case is the PCI card air duct. After everything else in the case was installed, the duct can be put into place and fastened through the back vent holes and at the bottom with two included bolts.
In our components picture on the previous page, the hole where an additional 80mm fan can be attached is visible, and it is this fan that would pull cool air from outside and direct it at the video and other cards to help keep them from getting too hot. Without the 80mm fan installed, the 120mm fans actually create enough suction to pull some air through this duct anyway - as long as they're on the medium or high speed setting - so purchasing an additional fan isn't totally necessary to make this duct usable. It also serves as the holder for the 5¼” drive rails, so losing them shouldn't be a problem; something that certainly can be in frequent traveling or uninstalling/reinstalling expeditions.
The P-180 ships with an unprecedented three 120mm fans, each of which has a switch identical to the ones that come with the Sonata. Out of the box, they are attached on the top panel pointing out, the rear panel pointing out, and the last is in the bottom chamber between where the power supply goes and the hard drive cage, directing air towards the power supply. Right away, we ran into a problem, however, with this third fan, as the power supply that we used for testing was too long to allow us to keep the fan where it was. To solve this problem, we made use of the case's fantastic customizability, and moved the fan to the other side of the bracket and turned it so that it was still blowing air towards the PSU. In this arrangement, it is no longer possible to put standard hard drives into the bottom drive cage, but there is still room for two in the upper cage anyway, so this was not a problem for us. In this picture, the bottom cage is half-way out, and the piece that holds the ring in place, both the upper and lower plastic rails on which the cage slides, as well as the tabs that the fan cage uses to hold the fan in place, are all visible.
The fact that we didn't use the included mounting bracket for the power supply is apparent from this picture as well, and the reason why is because we actually found it harder to fit out power supply into this bracket than just fastening it directly to the back plate. Ideally, this bracket's six rubberized strips could be used to keep vibrations from the power supply isolated, but our OCZ unit is rather quiet anyway.
As we mentioned earlier, the sheer design of this case - namely the decision to put the power supply at the bottom without inverting the motherboard - creates a potential problem: the motherboard power cables might be really tight, or unable to reach at all. With our Chaintech motherboard, we were actually testing just about the worst-case scenario, given that its power plug is at the very top of the board. Luckily, since we have to use the 24 to 20 pin adapter, our OCZ PowerStream power supply has enough cable to make the trip comfortably. This is definitely something to keep in mind, however, if one has an existing power supply and/or motherboard that they'd like to use in this case.
What is also visible in this picture is Antec's attempt at a system to isolate the two chambers thermally. The black plastic piece that the cables are going through can slide in two separate ways to make cable routing easier, but then slide back to provide a seal to keep the air moving only within each chamber.
Depending on one's particular setup, this cover could be used rather effectively or barely at all, depending on how many cables are needed to go through the two openings into the bottom chamber. For us, we must admit that we found the cover to be a bit more clumsy than useful, but this might not be the case for someone else.
One last piece to investigate with this case is the PCI card air duct. After everything else in the case was installed, the duct can be put into place and fastened through the back vent holes and at the bottom with two included bolts.
In our components picture on the previous page, the hole where an additional 80mm fan can be attached is visible, and it is this fan that would pull cool air from outside and direct it at the video and other cards to help keep them from getting too hot. Without the 80mm fan installed, the 120mm fans actually create enough suction to pull some air through this duct anyway - as long as they're on the medium or high speed setting - so purchasing an additional fan isn't totally necessary to make this duct usable. It also serves as the holder for the 5¼” drive rails, so losing them shouldn't be a problem; something that certainly can be in frequent traveling or uninstalling/reinstalling expeditions.
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Phantronius - Friday, September 9, 2005 - link
My P180 is the last case I'll ever buy. I love you Antec!!!leviathan19 - Friday, September 9, 2005 - link
the 1200 is deeper yes but is still mid tower class it fixes the psu problems and more space is always better for work with itZepper - Friday, September 9, 2005 - link
Re. cases that come with PSUs. Either rate the PSU too or deduct the portion of the price that the PSU represents from the case price so you are comparing apples to apples price wise.. And I don't care for the looks of a lot of the cases on the market either. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My case is a Silverstone Berserker which many think is fugly...
.bh.
kmmatney - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
I don't see why people make such a big deal out of aluminum cases. In my experience, they are flimsier and louder than steal cases, and more prone to rattle. I don't see why anyone would pay so much money for one...at80eighty - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
DRTFA yet, so forgive me if its been coveredYou guys have any leads on cases with more fans?
with the new VGA's and CPU's i think a cooler case than a cooler-looking case is a better investment..
any pointers people?
johnsonx - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
RTFA, and no forgiveness for you!The Antec P180 is a quiet cooling dream I think. I looked at one on display over at Fry's and just about wet myself. Then I looked at the price tag and decided to stick with my old, free, boring, beige case. But if the price is no objection, I can't imagine purchasing anything else.
at80eighty - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
thanx mate! the p180 looks pretty sweet! the price is OK (just about) for me :)plus it doesnt have that HEY LOOK AT ME IM AN ATTENTION WHORE!!! look.
/hope this case shows up in my part of the world :-(
Cygni - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
I saw one case that i would even consider putting next to my desk.If you are supporting the case mfts making these hideous beasts by buying them, i personally hate you.
leviathan19 - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
why they used this one the 1200 is a better version and fix the psu problem...there is missing the pc75b and the TT shark those are nice cases too
OvErHeAtInG - Thursday, September 8, 2005 - link
The 1200 is much deeper, for extended-atx boards I think. Definitely not something I would get except for a big duallie rig.